A few weeks ago, Chris Walla joined us to talk about his time producing one of our favourite records of all time- Songs About Leaving by Carissa’s Wierd. While the band has since broken apart, the fragility found in their music has often been a source of comfort during our own personal unravellings.

This is a longer episode, and so if you want to skip ahead to the discussion on Carissa’s Wierd specially, go to 46 mins!